As you may know, the Bleachgate affair started with a bad experience on an alt-med supporting Crohn’s disease “support” forum.
I propose that a skeptical support forum/blog be set up, for people to converse with skeptical and rational people.
This is probably going to be my main “project” throughout the summer holidays, a long time for me, given that I’ve finished school and 6th Form starts for me in September!
I plan to set up a website.
However, I don’t have any money to start this up, so I am asking you, rational people, to donate just a small amount of money to help set up
People shouldn’t be kicked off a support forum for raising a skeptical point of view. This forum and blog would eradicate the problem.
I will also be looking for other skeptical bloggers to help run the blog as well, so any donations of time to help with that will be greatly appreciated as well!
If you wish to contribute to the yearly cost to run the forum of £65, you can click the button underneath which will take you to PayPal so you can donate.


Thank you for your support!

20 Responses to “SkepticSupport”

  1. sergio December 2, 2011 at 4:28 am #

    I noticed the few posts you have in here, and the keywords google says you are targeting.
    The only keywords this blog is ranking are “Burzynsky” and “antineoplastons therapy”, so I can’t understand your passion.
    What will be the passion for the site you want to build?
    What stress you want to release there?
    Usually websites are made to make money.
    Who will be the sponsors on your site?
    Why will they pay for?
    Why people looking for an alternative answer will stay if you give them if the moderators are not OUT the official side?
    You have to give visitors what they want.
    Tell us what you want (you said you have psicologic problems or so) and probably my team of search marketing experts can partner you to build this website.

  2. Luke July 10, 2011 at 9:20 pm #

    Rhys, Just wondering if with you objecting to drinking bleach; you have now stopped drinking tap water?

    • Seamus Ruah July 27, 2011 at 8:12 pm #

      Because drinking chlorinated water is the same as drinking bleach?
      Nice try…

      p.s. You’re an asshat.

  3. Jonathan H June 20, 2011 at 6:55 pm #

    Rhys, I and many others could probably have you up and running with a phpbb board on a fast free Amazon server in an hour or so. Happy to do so if you want but… I also wonder about “diluting” the web with more forums. Creating your own forum is preaching to the converted – getting the message into existing forums, specially the nutty ones, would be the real challenge.

  4. Teej71 June 20, 2011 at 3:41 pm #

    Are you trying to make me feel guilty that I spent my Dad’s Day donation on Portal 2? -grumble- Ask me next SitP. In FACT, why don’t you ask if you can have a donations tub next to Vanita on the door? Who could resist such a worthy skeptical cause?

    There should be a database for “using PubMed” and “Identifying Fallacies”. It could be a wonderful utility. Good call, Rhys. Going for Grassroots 2 years in a row, clearly.

  5. latsot June 20, 2011 at 3:31 pm #


    Is the idea to set up a forum for people who feel they’ve been fobbed off or villainised when they’ve tried to educate people about proper medical conditions?

    • Rhys Morgan June 20, 2011 at 3:33 pm #

      Well, the main idea is that it’s a support forum. But it will have a skeptical theme to it. A place for skeptics, rationalists and freethinkers to go for support about illness.
      But of course, people can use it for whatever they see fit!

      • latsot June 20, 2011 at 3:42 pm #

        Support for what? What kind of support? Who will provide the support? How will it be policed/moderated? How will you know your site isn’t handing out piss poor advice?

        All these questions are fairly easily answered, but need to be.

        • latsot June 20, 2011 at 3:44 pm #

          Please understand that I’m playing devil’s advocate, by the way 🙂

          • Rhys Morgan June 20, 2011 at 3:47 pm #

            Yup, of course!
            Support will be provided by the community, like in other community support forums!
            I’ll do a bit of research before writing the rules of engagement. It will be moderated by a group of moderators who have applied to help with the site.
            There won’t be any medical advice given out on the site. There will likely be blogs on new treatments for diseases and the like though.

  6. Tannice Pendegrass June 20, 2011 at 3:14 pm #

    Hi Rhys,

    Donation made and also, I’d like to offer some time too, once it gets started 🙂


    • Rhys Morgan June 20, 2011 at 3:15 pm #

      Thank you very much!

  7. EnglishAtheist June 20, 2011 at 2:48 pm #

    It’s a nice idea, but is it needed?

    I’ll bet my bottom dollar there are forums already out there – seems a shame to spend money on reinventing the wheel.

    Will eat my hat (and donate a dollar I guess) if it turns out there aren’t…

    • Rhys Morgan June 20, 2011 at 2:55 pm #

      I genuinely can’t find any skeptical support forums out there.
      Yes, there are support forums, but a large number seem to have a pro-alt-med bias. =/

      • TIm Farley June 20, 2011 at 3:21 pm #

        Rhys, there are several skeptical forums out there already, I’m sure any of them would love to have you and might even start a new section for what you want to do. (Unless I’m misunderstanding what you are proposing here).

        Among the already existing forums:

        The James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF) Forum:

        Michael Shermer’s Skeptic Magazine Forum:

        The UK Skeptics Forum:

        The Skeptics Guide to the Universe podcast forum:

        Skepticality podcast forum:

        And several others:

        I’d consider using one of these venues as they already have a certain mass of skeptics participating. I’m sure at least one of them would be more than willing to set up a special section for you if there isn’t one that fits what you’re trying to do already.

        • Rhys Morgan June 20, 2011 at 3:44 pm #

          Thanks for the comment!
          I’d still be interested in starting our own forum, because then it can be a forum and blog dedicated to providing patient support.
          If not enough money can be raised, then I will have a look at other options!

        • latsot June 20, 2011 at 3:45 pm #

          These aren’t *support* forums, though.

    • Barry June 20, 2011 at 3:30 pm #

      I think it might be a good place for those with a skeptical leaning to go for advice on individual issues. Perhaps they don’t have the time (or skill) to investigate themselves.

      Other skeptic resources are useful for reference, but difficult to find somewhere to ask a community for advice on a specific issue. I’ve been looking for advice on the claims of ‘baby massage’, and struggled —perhaps this forum would be a good place for such a question to be asked?

      • Rhys Morgan June 20, 2011 at 3:35 pm #

        Yup, that’s exactly the kind of thing I mean!

        • mippyd July 11, 2011 at 12:34 am #

          Being a patient with any kind of chronic illness is difficult. Many support forums out there support “woo”. I belong to a forum where people where stating they were being cured by homeopathy. I posted scientific evidence that homeopathy is a placebo with over 200 supporting studies. I was warned by the mods that if I stated homeopathy is a placebo, I would be banned as it insults people who use homeopathy. WTF.

          Many people attacked me — not on the basis of a scientific argument but on the basis of anecdotes — I was villified. Much like what happened to Rhys when he mentioned that MMS was not a cure on the Chrons’s forum.

          It would nice to be able to go to a forum and discuss the research in a sensible manner without all the woo drama. I think this is what Rhys is trying to start. On most forums, the voice of woo overtakes the voice of science. Why not have science as the voice of reason. Most skeptic forums are not for patients who actually live wiht chronic illness and who are told day in and day out that woo will cure them of all ills.

          I would love a forum to be able to discuss treatments in a scientific manner in a balanced manner. Not a forum where woo wins because the mods and admin push woo as the word of God.

          I am always interested in what people are doing but not being able to discuss something openly is horrible.

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